Silence on the stack

I played so many fun and challenging cEDH games this weekend in Houston. Loved meeting players and fans, and reuniting with my cEDH tournament friends from across the country. My only challenging moment came when retired Magic Pro Sam Black resorted to disparaging my character in hopes of scoring a victory in our match.

This topic is difficult to talk about but I hope discussing this openly and publicly will be helpful and healing for not only myself but for the cEDH community at large.

In our 4th round match in the Midseason Invitational, Sam Black was storming off with a Song of Creation, and at the pivotal choke point, Player 1 cast an Orim’s Chant, effectively stopping his win. Player 4 and I said we would pass priority if he silenced Sam, and we agreed that Player 1 would get another turn from us. We were willing to make any deal: we were out of relevant counterspells and were essentially dead in the water. Without a spell to cast in response, Sam’s lone strategy was to then personally attack one of his opponents: me, to accuse me of being a liar and a cheat as a means to persuade Player 1 to take back the pivotal spell. Sam was persistent, Player 1 appeared flustered, and I felt deeply hurt by one of the most famed Magic players trashing my character just to win a game of cards.

This was not the first tournament game Sam had done this, and it was as particularly hurtful then as it was in this instance. I immediately asked Sam to stop, told him that I felt uncomfortable and harassed, and when he pressed on with the verbal attacks, I called for a Judge.

Standing up to someone of Sam’s stature was difficult, even for me. I felt heated, intimidated, tilted. His behavior seemed to be making the other players in the pod uncomfortable as well.

Myself and Player 4 were removed from the table by the judges while they discussed the situation. Most shocking was during this deliberation by the tournament staff, Sam was left alone for minutes with the controller of the Orim’s Chant and continued to politic that player during the judge call. Eventually a judge was sent to the table, but the damage had been done.

When we returned, the Tundra was untapped, the spell was back in Player 1’s hand. Sam explained to us that Player 1 had decided not to cast the Chant after all. Sam’s ad hominem attack on me was successful in persuading our opponent to allow for his win. And Sam proceeded to cast many, many more spells and did in fact win. But it is not the match result that doesn’t sit well with me.

As difficult as it is, I am working on finding forgiveness for Sam Black. Being called a liar and a scummy player struck a chord, just like being the punch line of the 11-hour game. But why do these barbs hurt to much?

Probably like most Magic players I was a competitive and bright kid, but I had an antagonist relationship with my family and some teachers. I feel embarrassed talking about it publicly, but I was subjected to a good deal of verbal and emotional abuse from my parents. They often cast my intellect as coercive or scheming. As a fat kid, I was often characterized as greedy. As a result, I grew to be a real people pleaser, a giver, and still have a deep habit of wanting people to like me. Even in the cEDH community: I try to do so much for people with art, content, tournaments, etc. Does it come from a desire to rewrite my role, to be seen as kind and easygoing and generous in the eyes of others?

What could this difficult experience in a game of cEDH be trying to teach me in life? I can’t honestly sum up this post with any sort of conclusions, because frankly I still don’t know how I feel or what I’ve ultimately learned. I was tempted to ignore the horrible game experience with Sam and focus on all the amazing games I did have, the tasty food I ate, the laughs with friends, signing mats for fans and meeting patrons in real life for the first time.

After the game I returned Sam’s Rhystic Study. I had gained control of it and we had the same color sleeves. I was hoping he would apologize to me then, away from the game when there was no in-game equity to be gained by putting me down. He didn’t apologize. Rather, he continued to explain why he believed I was a deceitful person and not to be trusted. I could only walk away.

Maybe I need to learn that being generous is its own reward , with no desire for anything in return, not even being liked? There is line here, something about kindness and The Golden Rule, the forgiveness of self and others, generosity for its own sake. It is not deterministic but I’m confident I can piece it together.

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I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I was one of the people that didn’t know how to feel about the 11 hour game, but after hearing people I respect talk so highly of you and how great you are to be around my mind has changed completely.

This type of obscene behavior doesn’t belong inside of the cEDH or Magic community as a whole.

Here’s to many more amazing games friend! You’re an amazing pillar of the community :heart:

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This sounds like a terrible situation to be put in. My experience meeting you this weekend was nothing short of fantastic. You’ve done a lot of great things for the community and it sucks that people are hold a game over your head where you were only one of FOUR players at the table. I hope this weekends events don’t lessen your enthusiasm for our format. Congrats on the redemption win and keep kicking ass!

We have all seen you on stream lying and breaking deals. I’ve haven’t had the displeasure of playing against you yet but I would have done the same thing. Everyone says you a good guy, and I believe them, but it is the case you are a deal breaker in Cedh and it is only fair for players to inform others in the game that that is who they are dealing with. Just my take on the matter, interested in what others think.

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Firstly, you can tell he wrote this with Ai, you can click on the edit history, right after he wrote this he deleted all of the em dashes, clear sign it was Ai generated. Kinda silly to do on a post that is so personal but whatever.

Anyways you glossed over what the judges ruling was? Did the judges determine there was no harassment? If that’s the case did you leave that out to give yourself a better narrative?

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It’s actually funny, it definitely was not written with AI. I chatted with Tim about this when he posted it. I said “em dashes will make people think you used AI”.

Tim is literally one of the most educated people I know. Simultaneously, he has zero capacity to use technology (including AI), not to mention he’s completely allergic to the idea of it given that he’s an artist.

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really sucks to hear about this cause i look up to both of yall as players. its even more upsetting to hear that there was no apology or any ability for you guys to talk it out after the fact. whole situation just sounds like a huge bummer.

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God I fucking hate what AI has done to the reputation of the em dash.

Tim literally graduated from one of the most prestigious MFA programs in creative writing in the entire universe. As another writer I can guarantee you there was no AI tools used in the creation of this post, regardless of what you think of the events that occurred.

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Truly inspiring. A brilliant mind, bravely dying to any login screen. How does he use moxfield with no technological mastery?

Curious if we can get screen shots with the date and time stamps? Since Tim doesn’t know how to use technology he won’t photoshop it so i trust you guys there.

Ai aside- let’s see if we can get an answer on that Judge calling instead of harping over Ai

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You’re the one that brought it up. I’m the one sharing the screenshots, not Tim. If you feel that I’m being untrustworthy, I don’t know what to tell you.

Let’s stay on topic with this thread.

Completely agree. Let’s get some answers about the judge call.

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As a prominent member of the Critical edh team how do you feel about the deal breaking and lying that Tim has exhibited for a long time now. I know you two are friends and he is a good guy and all that, but do you condemn the lying in cedh? It is my understanding that the Critical edh team opposes lying and supports informing other players not to make deals with known deal breakers. (you don’t have to dislike the person but it is clear to me that his actions are not in line with your stance on this issue)

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Have you considered that breaking deals with multiple people on camera, including Sam himself, has led to people feeling the need to point out making deals with you is probably a bad idea?

Lying in a cEDH game is being competitive, denying that you do so out of game is actual dishonesty.

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In a game based around politics, lying is an incredibly overpowered strategy. The only real defense players have is to work together to identify and call out liars: if no one is willing to make deals with you, then you never have the opportunity to break those deals. The threat of this happening is supposed to deter people from lying in the first place, but you’re on record breaking deals pretty blatantly on multiple occasions. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know the details; maybe Sam Black was way out of line, insulting and degrading you beyond what would be acceptable as just politicking. However, it seems like your complaint here is more about Sam’s angle of attacking your character/reputation, rather than the specific things he was saying. If that’s the case, then I don’t really see any issue with Sam’s approach here; it’s a reasonable strategy, and somehting that you opened yourself up to by breaking deals in other games.

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